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John Sie

When their granddaughter was born with Down syndrome, Anna and John Sie became keenly aware of a lack of resources for her as well as others around the globe with her condition. They decided to take action, establishing research facilities at Children’s Hospital Colorado through the Anna and John J. Sie Foundation.

Opened in late 2010 as part of the Linda Crnic Institute for Down Syndrome at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, the Sie Center combines medical care with speech, physical and other therapies. It also provides up-to-date information and support to primary care doctors and families.

The first American organization committed to eradicating the medical and cognitive challenges associated with Down syndrome—through clinical research and care—the Crnic Institute incorporates local and global partners at its Anschutz Medical Campus headquarters in Aurora. The institute is heavily supported by the Global Down Syndrome Foundation (GDSF).

ABILITY’s Chet Cooper sat down with John Sie to talk about his expansive career and his ambitious mission.

Chet Cooper: Tell me about your background. You were an engineer originally?

John Sie: In the late 1950s, I got a bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering, a master’s in electrophysics, and finished my coursework for a doctorate degree in electrophysics. Around that time, I was working in defense electronics, and my boss, who had a PhD and MBA at Bell Labs, said, “Gee, we can raise money and start a company.” This was way before venture capital was available. So, for some good reason, I stopped pursuing a PhD and started a company with him called Micro State Electronics. Unfortunately, he passed away, and I became the president and CEO. That company was eventually acquired by Raytheon.

Cooper: Never heard of them... Actually they’re a client of ours. Seems that you’ve had some success without a PhD.

Sie: (laughs) When I came here at age 14 from Taiwan, I went to high school in the Denver area. Compared to the other Chinese students who were coming here from Taiwan, I spoke English very well. The reason I did not complete my PhD studies was because, although they all had their PhDs, they were all complaining that they couldn’t get into supervisory-level management.

Cooper: Were they overqualified, or was their education not quite comparable to what they were teaching over here?

Sie: No, I think there was a glass ceiling at that time for an Asian with an advanced degree. “You can’t be a manager” was the general complaint. When I was growing up in China, people were pretty entrepreneurial. In Southeast Asia, the Chinese controlled commerce.

So in my head I said, “All of my friends have a PhD and yet none of them has any chance of becoming a businessperson.” So I took up my boss’s challenge and went to start a business. The rest is history.

Cooper: Your next venture hit pretty big.

Sie: I continued to create entrepreneurial companies, and the last one I started before I retired was the Starz-Encore movie channels.

Cooper: You’ve since sold those and retired?

Sie: Yes. I’ve been retired since 2004.

Cooper: And the next chapter of your life was the beginning of the Global Down Syndrome Foundation.

Sie: At the Linda Crnic Institute, yes. My granddaughter, Sophia, was born with Down syndrome, so that gave us a natural segue into what we do now, which is to try to improve life for those with Down syndrome. It is a rewarding place to direct my energy.

Cooper: It’s surprising that a clinic like this didn’t already exist, given that a gap between quality-of-life issues and health issues has always existed for people with Down syndrome.

Sie: There’s always a body of accelerating knowledge in bioscience and biotechnology, but someone has to come in and direct focus onto a specific condition or disease. That didn’t happen with Down syndrome until we started the foundation.

Cooper: You were, in part, motivated by your granddaughter to make the world a better place.

Sie: That’s correct. And it’s so exciting that within my lifetime—by 2017, we project—we will find a solution that eradicates the medical and cognitive deficits associated with Down syndrome. So we’re not just working around the edges to improve things; we’re getting down to the fundamental science at both the prenatal and postnatal levels and making changes. That’s a daunting, audacious and yet achievable objective.

Cooper: Your goalpost is 2017?

Sie: Yes. I put that deadline on Dr. Edward McCabe and the rest of the scientific community.

Cooper: I saw the lab being built. It’s an amazing, 10,000-square-foot facility. My undergraduate degree was in biology, so just going into that lab brought back some great memories. And I love goals with a deadline.

Sie: In business, you need to set milestone goals, and also, in the negotiation for the Linda Crnic Institute, we insisted on the hard availability of real estate. That may not seem so important, but in the long term, space will become very important. Everybody demands space, and if you don’t have a solid contract for it, you may not get what you need.
Did you go to Children’s Hospital Colorado? We have space there also.

Cooper: Yes. You’ve set the foundation to do great things. That makes me think of Shafallah Center in Qatar... continued in ABILITY Magazine click here to order a print copy or to subscribe Or get a free digi issue with a "Like" on our Facebook page

Global Down Team Toyota

Though Down syndrome affects people around the globe, money to research the condition lags far behind that of breast cancer or autism. Despite advancements in rights and opportunities for people with disabilities, families of children with Down syndrome continue to battle against diminished expectations.
Thanks in no small part to the efforts of the Global Down Syndrome Foundation and the Linda Crnic Institute, a new age of understanding has begun. These Denver-based organizations seek to reframe the perception of Down syndrome through innovative research.

ABILITY’s Chet Cooper met with the executive director of the Linda Crnic Institute, Edward McCabe, MD, and members of the Sie Center clinic, including program coordinator Dee Daniels, RN; director of education Patricia McVay, MS; assistant professor Kristin Jensen, MD; and Sie Center medical director Fran Hickey, MD, to discuss the road ahead.

Chet Cooper: How did you become a part of the clinic?

Edward McCabe: I had been chair of pediatrics at UCLA for 16 years, but I came here in August 2010 because I was attracted to the mission of eradicating the medical and cognitive effects of Down syndrome. It’s a very different condition than it was 30 years ago. By changing the educational culture, and by providing early intervention, we’ve enhanced people’s lives.

Patricia C. Winders, a physical therapist who literally wrote the book on gross motor skills for people with Down syndrome, had been at the clinic by herself for two and a half years before we began adding more people. Today we’re up to about seven faculty and eight staff members. Even with only 15 people onboard, we stand as the largest organization devoted to Down syndrome in the United States and possibly in the world.

We’re also unique in that we perform not only foundational research in the biology around Down syndrome, but also translational, clinical and outcomes research. We perform some clinical trials and offer health services in our clinic.

Cooper: Let’s talk about the trials you’re working on.

McCabe: Adults with Down syndrome face early onset Alzheimer’s disease, so we believe there should be clinical trials of these adults with any drug that’s been approved for Alzheimer’s by the Food and Drug Administration. We already know that physical activity improves quality of life and cognition, so we’re looking into a study of exercise right now.

Cooper: How would such a study work?

McCabe: We would probably contrast an exercise group against a sedentary group and observe change over a set time period. We’ve also been approached by a pharmaceutical group that wants us to educate them about leukemia that is associated with Down syndrome.

Cooper: What other conditions are typically associated with Down?

Fran Hickey: The co-morbidity that gets the most press is heart disease, which affects about 40 percent to 50 percent of the kids, and 20 percent to 25 percent of them very seriously. These children develop a thing called a canal, which is an abnormal interaction between the atrium and the ventricles. Fortunately the outcome for that defect has greatly improved over the last 10 or 15 years. Now there is better intervention, better surgeries and better anesthesia.

McCabe: And people with Down syndrome also have improved access to care today. As recently as 1990, the medical profession said: We’re not going to give people with Down syndrome the life-saving surgeries they need. That has changed.

If 20 percent to 25 percent of a group is dying between the ages of two and four, that obviously has a huge impact on overall life expectancy. Life expectancy began to change around the year 1990, because of access to these surgeries.

Hickey: We’re trying to get data on why, exactly, things have improved. It mostly has to do with treatment of cardiac conditions; in some instances, we can patch patients with stents, so we don’t have to open their chests. Some of the other defects are not that hard to treat, and some conditions naturally go away on their own. Those are probably the biggest changes.

There is a lot of research associated with Down syndrome that can help everybody. Who isn’t concerned about Alzheimer’s? Everybody knows somebody with it. But about 50 percent of people with Down syndrome get it, and it starts earlier. That’s a big concern.

About a quarter of people with Down syndrome have small ear canals—smaller everything, in fact—so they experience a lot of conductive problems when they’re younger. Sensory neural problems, such as deafness, have significantly decreased. Years ago, it was estimated that 20 percent of people with Down syndrome were deaf at birth. Today that’s 1 percent to 2 percent, at most.

Dee Daniels: That’s because conditions are now identified earlier.

Hickey: Down syndrome research has allowed all people to improve, because it’s created technology that helps everybody. Research on facial and ear anomalies that has benefited people with Down syndrome has benefited other kids with those challenges as well.

An inability to hear affects your development from the start. A lot of people with Down syndrome have an eye-movement disorder called strabismus. As a result, their risk of developing cataracts is higher than it is for the rest of us, so their eyes have to be watched closely. They also tend to have more problems with breathing and eating, because everything’s smaller.

We know that difficulties with the chest often cause death in kids with Down syndrome, because those with the most severe problems end up aspirating. Every child patient of mine who has passed away has had problems with the lungs. We need some clinical studies to look into this. Fran’s work in this area has really energized the medical community.

McCabe: I bumped into one of our colleagues yesterday, and he began telling me how excited he was to have access to some mouse-lung models of Down syndrome.

Cooper: What do mice have to do with understanding the condition?

McCabe: The mouse has the chromosome 21, which is also found in humans. My colleague has a mouse that’s trisomic—meaning that it has three chromosomes instead of the usual two. It has a bit of chromosome No. 10, a bit of chromosome No. 16, and a bit of chromosome No. 17, so this mouse is allowing the team to notice some striking differences. Now it’s just a question of breaking the code. Fran is talking to clinical subspecialists and getting them to make the connection between seizures and Down syndrome, or between autism and Down syndrome.

Hickey: We had a pretty good study in Cincinnati that looked at the percentages of children with Down syndrome and autism, both of which my son has. He kind of went downhill when he was about five or six, and then he stabilized. My wife was phenomenal through the whole experience. My son has made some progress, and spending time with him is the highlight of my day.

Close to 5 percent or 6 percent of kids are likely to have a dual diagnosis of Down syndrome and autism. The incidences of kids who solely get autism is close to 1 percent now—1 out of 110 in the latest data.

Cooper: And for boys the numbers are 1 out of 70.

Hickey: Exactly.

Daniels: Some kids are misidentified as being autistic, when in fact their condition is really an expressive speech disorder. They just haven’t had enough aggressive early intervention.

Hickey: This is the thing: I’m not looking for the Holy Grail for my kids. I’m looking to maximize what they can do. They can exercise, for example. There are people who are 30 to 40 years old and who have never had any exercise. They’ve never had a chance to do anything. Exercise makes people’s lives better. It can affect the incidence of Alzheimer’s.

It can affect a lot of things....... continued in ABILITY Magazine click here to order a print copy or to subscribe Or get a free digi issue with a "Like" on our Facebook page.

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Excerpts from the John C. McGinley Issue Dec/Jan 2011-12:

Kessler Foundation — Research That Gets People Moving

John C. McGinley — Expanding His Role

John Sie — And the Global Down Team

Food Deserts — Activists Help Communities Get Good Food

Ashley Fiolek — Befriends Noora, an Iranian Racer

Raketu — Cool Apps for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing

DLRC — A Fight to Protect a Boy and His Dog

Articles in the John C. McGinley Issue; Ashley Fiolek — Befriends Noora, an Iranian Racer; Noora Moghaddas — Befriends Ashley, a US Racer; Humor — To Anchorage With Love Sen. Tom Harkin — Jobs + Education = American Dream; Raketu — Cool Apps for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing; Adaptive Golf — The Fight Over Carts; USBLN — Annual Conference in Kentucky; Kessler Foundation — Research That Gets People Moving; Food Deserts — Activists Help Communities Get Good Food; John C. McGinley — Expanding His Role; John Sie — A Career That Spans Tech, TV and Top Research; Global Down Syndrome — Bringing Their ‘A’ Team; DLRC — A Fight to Protect a Boy and His Dog; Betsy Valnes — On Creating a World Disability Congress; ABILITY's Crossword Puzzle; Events and Conferences... subscribe

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